On 18 hour work days and Quiet Quitting

2 Nov

I get Shantanu Deshpande. I really do – maybe its generational, maybe its just a type; but I have more than a sneaking fellow feeling for him. So does the husband. And so do/ did Roger Federer, Steve Jobs, Indira Gandhi and Amitabh Bachchan.

I mean, I now lead a life which I worry is a very bad example to my kids in how checked out it is – I walk 15k steps a day while taking dog for ambulatory walks; read (and re read) old comfortable books (like Blytons and Potters and Heyers) while generating HUGE tsundoku; attend music groups; avidly follow cooking trends (on that topic – butter boards: yes or no?); clock 8 hours plus on average on several devices; and drink copious amounts of beer on weekends. Thankfully, the husband’s lifestyle is the exact opposite – his day begins at like 5 am-ish, and ends at 1 am-ish – with maybe an hour and a half for other stuff like eating; walking dog. The rest – he is working. (Except for the drinking on weekends). I’m hoping the kids learn from the dad even if they aspire to the mom.

But, this lifestyle of mine came AFTER years of backbreaking slogging – of, in fact, much more than 18 hour workdays – and that, irrespective of whether I worked in a privately held Indian business, a Multinational Corporation, or of course my own venture. I think I’ve recorded this somewhere earlier: when we were running our start-up; given it was in the early days of digital media – so, a very new domain, and completely new roles at entrepreneurship for us partners, also new geographies that were not co- located, we needed to have really long hours, and often, undefined work scope. It was NOT easy – but, as I told some teams who were complaining about the long work hours – ‘nothing you can say about unreasonable hours will astonish me, as I’ve done all this and more’….

So I now feel reasonably guiltless about my life of leisure – I think it is well earned – I’ve paid my dues and am now reaping the reward – the reward is compounded by the fact that I don’t really have a hugely expensive lifestyle and am very happy to just smell the roses as it were.

I think our generation (and definitely those before us) had this very strict effort and reward code – you work hard, you get your reward (in money/ in time/ in success whatever). It was generally acknowledged and proven that you didn’t get good marks unless you slogged, and that meant you didn’t get admissions into good colleges, and that meant you didn’t get good jobs, and that meant you didn’t make good money and that meant you didn’t have a good lifestyle. It was fairly direct correlation, and fairly organic growth.

Also, it was a waterfall sequence related to life cycle stages – work at one phase/ family at the next/ retirement and attendant benefits at the next. And, at the overlapping stages, it entailed constant juggling.

But, I think times have changed drastically (at least in urban middle class cohorts). Maybe it’s the culture of instant gratification, (no waiting in line at STD booth for calls/ hungry at 2 am? just order swiggy/ spent too much this semester? a click and mom wires money…). Maybe it’s the wave of cool start ups – with so many unicorns around that enable exponential payoffs and reward, the newer generations want a non correlated effort-reward equation. As I see it, the newer younger workforce is not willing to submit one’s life at the altar of their jobs.

Hence the uproar on Shantanu Deshpande’s edict (and his subsequent resignation). Hence quiet quitting. Hence the workation trend. Hence the shortening median tenure at a single job (down from 36 odd months to 18 now).

The good part about this – the fact that this generation wants ownership of their time. They feel they are multi dimensional, they want to explore different parts of themselves, and they do not necessarily feel that money is equal to success.

They probably also feel that hard is not equal to smart – which is valid – one doesn’t necessarily want everyone slogging at stuff that could be done quicker/ better – technology now works tirelessly at enabling that very thing. 

The problem with this however is when this desire translates to a work ethic that makes the job just the job, when the commitment/ the drive for excellence/ the passion is not only lacking, it is considered not a good thing. Because, lets face it – there ARE times when you need the 18 hour work day – it’s not ideal, but it’s unavoidable. Because, unicorns and stock options notwithstanding, earning money is not easy – it takes long, unremitting hours very often. And, one has to strike a balance between ensuring good physical and mental health, and giving one’s all to what you are doing.

So, one has to wonder – it’s great that the current generation is making things easier for itself and that hedonism is a quasi virtue, and definitely that folks are prioritising health over everything. But, in the process, are we creating a less hardy/ more entitled generation? When chips are down, will this generation be able to cope? Or am I just too old and cynical? Food for Thought.

8 Responses to “On 18 hour work days and Quiet Quitting”

  1. Smita November 5, 2022 at 9:56 am #

    Very simply and eloquently put. Something that many of us have been pondering over a lot. And no, I don’t think it’s to do with age or being old school, because so many of us in my generation also feel this word-by-word. I like most, rather, close to all the trends that have made work cultures progressively healthier but whatever happened to the idea of hard work and personal quality benchmarks!? Sigh!!

    • joshsang November 5, 2022 at 11:17 am #

      🙂 not surprised you feel this way. I think it’s a combination of background (hence need/ drive), age and personality that leads to one being one side of the fence or the other

  2. Samya Ahmed November 5, 2022 at 5:36 pm #

    Food for thought, for sure! Agree that the work ethic drives the excellence eventually. There’s no getting away from that. Enjoyed reading 🙂

    • joshsang November 7, 2022 at 7:08 pm #

      Type I think you and I are outdated 🙂

  3. gowrink November 10, 2022 at 2:20 pm #

    Loved that last question, Sangita. When the chips are down, will we be able to cope? I hadn’t thought of it like that but now I’m wondering.

    • joshsang November 10, 2022 at 8:12 pm #

      🙂 yes, its the thought of insurance against potential mishaps that is worrying isn’t it? My 80 year old mum still insists on doing large amounts of work, saying, I need to be ready in case I need to work

      • gowrink November 11, 2022 at 12:18 pm #

        I went freelance in mid-2018; one of my original reasons was that I didn’t want to work 18-hour days. Then I realized that I don’t want to work 18-hour days for someone else. 😀 Every time I think I can slow down for a couple of months, this exact fear kicks in: shouldn’t I be working hard when I can? That beats working hard because I have to—whenever sh*t hits the ceiling.

  4. Sudhām Rāvinutalā November 13, 2022 at 9:56 pm #

    Not to worried about the coping mechanism …also not sure whether there’s a sense of entitlement either. My interactions with the Millennials have led me to believe that they’re much more matter of fact about things, believe in purpose more than rituals and traditions. They are not the ones raising a brow when someone walks in late to work or leaves early. As cliched as it sounds the hours one puts in are not relevant, the hours one takes out for life sure are!

    I am pretty sure the generations prior to us felt much the same when us GenXers joined the workforce. Having more tools at our disposal (read computer literacy) we adapted to the internet world rather that made them uncomfortable. Some sure must have felt we had it easy too. Remember a manager/guide at a revered Mumbai based Parsi conglomerate lamenting the fact that we thought sending an email report was “official” communication.
    Btw quiet quitting has always been around just think it’s now gotten a fancy name.

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